Good for them -- if there's one thing I've ever wanted from the next Windows os is not more features, but better use of processing power, memory and battery life.

Good for listening that. I tried 6.1.6081 and noticed the POWERFUL code included! I hope Microsoft's developers to work on hard and more smartly and quickly!!!
Like Aleks, I don't want new features, I want performance!

Wow, can't believe they didn't improve much in Windows Vista. Should have put that in there years ago.

One thing that I hope that Windows 7 does not do is try to log you off after 5 or so minutes of activity like Mac OS does. That is frustrating. Something that I hope that Microsoft does do, however, is include a num pad on Windows 7's Tablet PC Input Panel.

microsoft is awsome!!! badass

Very nice. I just hope companies that create new software and hardware will use the tools that microsoft has provided otherwise Windows 7 will not be as good as it could be.

I hope people just purchase software that is made for Windows 7 when it is released and that computer manufactures do not put on a lot of bloatware. It will make everyones experiance with Windows 7 a good one.

I suspect that is done because some people actually use it, not so much to waste space. BTW, be careful with your language, Chris.

One thing I hope for them to do is improve on the performance factor. I definitely don't want my computer running slow on the boot or start menu process. I am glad that Windows 7 will have a 3D interface with a Tablet feature and I am hoping to beta test it this January. Of course with all the issues with Windows Vista, I am going back to Windows XP. I am just not happy with Windows Vista. I like the security in stuff, but the user control thing sucks the life out of me. I love Microsoft and I try to test every software they have. I hope they do great on Windows 7!!!

For a couple years I was thinking of switching to the Mac OS. I was clearly not happy with Microsoft and Windows Vista. But now, after doing some research on Windows 7, looking at both the good and not so good, some might start throwing stones at me when I say I feel Windows 7 is starting to look and function better than the Mac OS X. I also prefer the fluid interface in Windows 7! It's friendlier, as well as functional. Long live the Library! And yes, Microsoft, please fix the plumbing in Windows. Well, to each his own, but I am hoping this time roung Win7 will be the OS PC users will want to use.

Fix the plumbing? Is its toilet, faucet, fridge, or the like going out?

You know what he means by "fix the plumbing".

Perhaps it is a reference to the bloatware comment. If not, I think that this one needs some explanation. Perhaps it has something to do with firewalls. Beats me

This kind of OS building technique could have been used 10 years ago easily. It only makes sense to build the OS small and tiny so that users can fully use and enjoy the benefits of newer, more powerful hardware. Eventually we will reach the point in Moore's Law that states "Eventually Microprocessor chips will not be able to be shrunk anymore". Moore accurately predicted after just seven years that the number of transistors that can be placed on a single microprocessor chip will double ever two years, he also depicted that eventually we won't be able to physically shrink those transistors any smaller. At that point, whenever it may be, it's up to software (mainly, and other ways of using existing hardware like the multi and many core processors) to become more efficient in order to continue the spur forward. It isn't and bad idea to get into this habit now.

These performance improvements also point out a smaller increase (if any at all) in minimum hardware specs in a computer to run Windows 7. Lets face it, even after 6 years of hardware improvement (2001=XP 2007=Vista) Vista was still far to heavy for any reasonable consumer PC at the time. I think MS has finally realized this, that a 800 dollar computer won't sale as well as a 500 dollar computer with less powerful hardware, and this means that the OS won't be received as well as it's running on a system that can't properly operate the system loaded on it.

Moore's Law? When was that thought up? I do not know that I recognize that particular term.

Moore's law (originally just a published document) was written sometime in 1965 as memory serves, about seven years after the innovation of the intergraded circuit in 58, that I know.

I see

Obviously things were different in the making of vista,
im sure technology has grown since then, so obviously windows 7 will be more up to date. i think everyone wants a better performance, and less new features because windows has great features already anyways.
Im stoked on windows 7. it might be out next year..
i hope so.
i STILL have windows xp.
Buti use vista very often at friends houses and such..
not as much as i would liekto though

I am a tech person, and have been working with modern technology industries for over 10 years, own some respect "Caleb". Perhaps you need some advice on technology?

Personally, I do not like the idea of Windows 7 because Microsoft is integrating subtle advertisements into the OS. This means increased need to go online for help, services, etc. Also, I heard that Windows 7 will have annoyances such as requiring you to download notepad, windows mail and other components before you can use them. Not that this is too big a deal, as they will be free, but it is still an annoyance. I really do not like how Microsoft is always trying to manipulate you, which is why I am about to buy a new Mac.

After vista launched, i didn't like vista, because have much problem such as compatibility, operate slower than previous windows. No need to say more, vista is a hardware killer.Am i right ?

For me , windows 7 just a second edition of vista
because windows 7 yet didn't launched, i just say what i knew.

terrible hardware killer, especially memory, maybe minimum 4GB.
using vista core, doesn't improve much. just pretty than b4.

so, that why i using Windows xp.

Right now, I'm using Windows XP. I'm going to wait for a better and faster OS. If Microsoft releases Windows 7 too soon, I don't think many people would buy it. The OS would be rushed, and I believe there wont be enough time for them to fix the bugs, errors, and compatibility issues that some people are having.

I've talked to some computer experts, and some computer programmers about Windows Vista. I asked than if I should buy it. They replied, "No, because Windows Vista is not compatible with many programs and it runs much slower than other Operating Systems."

So, if MS launches W7 too soon, I believe that nobody would buy it. Windows Vista was released only like January 2007.

I believe that Microsoft said that it would be based on Windows Vista, which probably means it wont be much different.

"terrible hardware killer, especially memory, maybe minimum 4GB.
using vista core, doesn't improve much. just pretty than b4."


I'm using the Pre-Beta 6108 right now, it's slicker than vista ever was on my 1 Gig, 1.76 dual core. Many of the features being added (or thus, removed) from Windows 7 have been in development since Windows ME and XP in 2000-2001 as Blackcomb and Vienna. In fact the time between XP and Vista was the longest between windows releases ever, might I mention that Windows 95, Win 98 (FE and SE) and Win ME were all released in a five year period. Mac OS even releases fast, 10.4 was the longest running release at 36 months (34?). As for downloading Notepad, not only had I never heard of it, but how big could Notepad and Mail *possibly* be? 10 meg, maybe at a streach 15.

"After vista launched, i didn't like vista, because have much problem such as compatibility, operate slower than previous windows. No need to say more, vista is a hardware killer.Am i right ?"

Your using the stereo media opinion here. Yes it did have compatibility issues with *old* software, that's why they put that fancy "Designed for Windows Vista" sticker on things. It doesn't really operate slower as long as you upgrade to SP1, and unlike XP, Vista keeps it's system files in better condition so unlike XP that just gets slower, and slower, and slower with time, Vista tends to stay up faster longer. As for a hardware killer, you can't hardly find a PC, during it's release or now, that didn't at least hit the minimum requirements of the system.

@rich:

"For me , windows 7 just a second edition of vista"
Windows 7 is supposed ot be an improved version of vista

I have no opinion either way because I have not used Windows 7. All I know is what articles and screenshots have told he. It looks nice according to them.

I was using XP since the beginning, but for this last year I use MacOSX. I have to admit that it is ways ways better. It's not problem free, but the problem can be easily solved. Yesterday when I ran backup program, suddenly a message appear that I am running out of hard disk space. After I stop the program, the hard disk reads 0 (zero) free space. Even at that, my Mac just ran stable, no slowing, no crash, no other error message (except that it could not write anything more to the hard disk). I restarted my Mac and traced the culprit (some hidden files made by the backup program), delete it and everything just return to normal. All the time without any slowing down or any other error message.

I am just sharing this info and hope it might help to improve next Windows version. For me, anything better is... well... better, regardless of who make it.

There are a couple things that I do not care for so much with Mac OS though.
1. After about 3-5 minutes of inactivity, the computer logs you off (likely part 0f how Apple keeps their OSes secure).
2. Apple has interesting backward compatibility With their programs. By interesting, I mean that it does not [at least appears not to] exist.

@Caleb, you can change the inactivity log out time limit.
Things I don't like about Mac OS
1: Customizing? What customizing?
2: 80 Million lines of coding make the OS somewhat bogged down when running several operations or programs at once (even non-intensive ones).
3: Set the OS doing something intensive, leave for 20 mins, come back and tell me what happens, I bet you $50 it's locked up.
4: iTunes, enough said, I despise that program.

is there actualy going to be a stopwatch clock gadget in windows 7?
for the questioners you now have to download windows live photo gallery,

Sorry if I cause some bad response but no offense, from my experience so far, even when a program in MacOS crash, it doesn't affect other running programs. I have run an intensive program (encode long movie clips) for full two days and I can still run Office and Photoshop without significant slow down.

InformationWeek

Windows 7 Shows Microsoft Hasn't Learned Vista Lessons

The project was called MinWin, a Microsoft effort to slim down the next version of Windows. The company said it had heard, loud and clear, that another bloated OS like Vista wouldn't fly. Then Windows 7 galumphed into the room.

Microsoft is spending much of this week offering glimpses of its next operating system at the All Things Digital Conference. If the previews are any indication, MinWin has joined BOB on the ash heap of Redmond's abandoned projects.

Indeed, Windows 7 looks like it's going to include many of Vista's useless CPU and memory hogging "features" and then some. In other words, it will be time to upgrade the hardware again when Windows 7 ships in the next year-and-a-half or so.

(Memo from Intel (NSDQ: INTC) CEO Paul Otellini to Steve Ballmer: "Thanks again, pal.")

Exhibit A: The "Multi-Touch" technology that Microsoft plans to offer in Windows 7. As my colleague J. Nicholas Hoover reports, the technology is designed to allow users to open and close windows, launch applications, and perform other functions by touching the screen and using an assortment of hand gestures.

That's uh, interesting, if it works; the history of failed direct input technologies is long and inglorious.

But, like Vista's seldom used Flip 3-D interface, it's nothing more than a resource-hungry novelty that will be used infrequently by people who spend most of their day on a PC. It's simpler, faster, and ergonomically better to use a mouse for most functions.

Microsoft also previewed another gimmicky new function in Windows 7 called Concierge, which is basically a circular pop-up menu. Whoa, that's worth buying another 2 GB of RAM!

So what's the harm? Users not drawn to such bells and whistles can just turn them off, right? That's only partly true. Vista requires considerably more processing power and memory than Windows XP, whether or not you use all its features.

And most users don't want or all these googahs, especially if they require hundreds of dollars worth of additional hardware. In fact, computer users -- in business or at home -- in general want a machine that can handle word processing, e-mail, and the Internet, and that's about it.

That's why Wal-Mart's $199 Linux PC sold out within days of its appearance on the retailer's Web site. That's why a story I wrote about a software tool that lets users strip all the gunk from Vista proved to be one of our most popular articles of the year.

Microsoft appears to be in denial about all of this, if early glimpses of Windows 7 are any indication. The company once again has adopted the kitchen sink approach to OS design. MinWin, apparently, was nothing more than a science fair project.

Microsoft's problem is that its business model has come to rely on selling operating systems that cost more than the hardware on which they reside. It knows this can't be sustained indefinitely, there's too many new options in the marketplace. Apple is resurgent, Google's eyeing the desktop, and there's those Wal-Mart Linux PCs.

But Ballmer and company have apparently decided that they can sell a few more big fat operating systems until they get this whole Internet thing figured out (or buy their way into it).

It's a risky strategy. (Otellini to Ballmer, circa late 2009: "Steve, the users are revolting!" Ballmer to Otellini: "Tell them to bathe!")

@Paul, perhaps I should tell you this, I'm using Windows 7 pre-beta 6108 right now, it's faster than vista ever was.

@David, What fantasy world are you living in. It's a very widespread complaint that the system doesn't have very good memory handling. They system lacks anything at all resembling Windows' Prefetch or Superfetch and thus doesn't keep programs other than the one your working on in primary levels of memory, thus if you set it to something intensive, like compressing/decompressing large files it will start to seize because that large operation pushes much of the other system into virtual memories or low priority levels of ram.

To Link48010:
Those cats, I tell you what, are like virtual rabies.
To David:
Office is not very intensive. As for Photoshop, that is probably a tad bit more intensive than Office, but Adobe's products are more intensive than a lot of things.
To Paul:
From what I have read, it sounds like Windows 7 will be/already is an improvement in performance over Vista. There ae some other areas that I am curious about (performance not necessarily being one of them, though that sounds nice), but I guess that I will see them when the beta is released to the public.

Caleb, Microsoft Office runs like a cow, while Adobe Products run smooth and under control

Good Luck on your adventure :)

@Eric, I beg to differ. I've always found both of them to run smooth, but Adobe uses much more memory while doing any kind of process. See Adobe Reader 9 VS Foxit

It's about time. More performance from the operating system by making better use of the hardware and impacting less the machines hardware and software. And conserving power.

I suppose that, in Eric's case, (that being that Office "runs like a cow,") he probably uses either WordPad or Notepad then to do his work with.

I suppose in his case he's using a G4 PPC processor running Mac OS 10.2 and running the 2007 edition of Word. I have Mac OS 10.5.2 running on my Toshiba Satallite A-195 under Darwine, I have a 1.76 dual core processor with 1 GB of Ram and a 256 MB Intel Express graphics card, it's by no means as powerful as most recent Mac's and runs Office fine, on both Windows and Mac OS (as I have both versions).

Hmm, another victim of Darwin's theories, eh? Apparently that one must have stated somehting to the effect of:
Running Mac OS, dual booted with Windows on a Toshiba Satellite runs better than Mac OS on an Apple brand computer. I am going to guess that, since your computer has Mac OS on it, that it has at least one FireWire port, as I believe that Mac OS requires the computer to have one. Windows was probably quite simple to install (especially if you did not wipe the machine first, and/or if it is an older version of Windows such as 95 or 98)!

My Toshiba came with Windows Vista home premium 32 bit and no it does not have a firewire. Mac OS installed on this machine almost as well as a native OS, only needing Verbose (-v at start up) to boot properly off the disk and boots fine normally. Only one issue, my headphone jack doesn't work, when I plug something in it continues to play thought he laptop speakers. http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Installation_Guides/Kalyway_DualBoot_10.5.2 this is the guide I used, only instead of editing the XP bootloader manually, I used a program called EasyBCD to add the Mac OS entry, and instead of using Partition Magic, I used Vista's built in partitioning software (Start>right click Computer>Manage>Disk Managment).

Hello.............

That is interesting. I guess that what I [thought I read] was wrong then.

till then hang on Windows Vista SP2 beta version it gives you the best and ya the evaluation copy is shown no need to worry as there are many changes to be done to upgrade from beta to final sp2 i am using it the processing and stability is there have chkdsks and defrags after installation n worries are over for who use Vista ...... surely one more tip go for tune up utilities 2009 it has it all original classic look to apple theme .... it can be downloaded from the software itself when you go in the customize windows menu it have an option tuneup styler go to visual style select option add and click download visual...... and it will directly take to the themes site and zoom on to the LEOPARD theme it is not same as mac is but the simlicity and performance can be seen........

@Jitz, I use TuneUp Utilities 2008, it is a very good program, I'd put it on par with Norton SystemWorks which despite the past problems Symantec has had with it's antivirus, is still one of the best system utilities on the market today.

Caleb, I sure got some important messages to say to you...

Caleb and all those people who can't understand computers.

Caleb does not have a parts of speech understanding. As seemed, Office does run very slow to me. My computer has a 150 GB Hard Drive, a 4 GB RAM, and a fast Intel Core 2 Quad processor. Hopefully you can understand what this all means because right now, you seem to forget my professionalism. And for you all who doesn't know, I have a Windows Operating System and I do not prefer the Mac OS. Caleb, please make things actually clear, because everything you say is incomplete and not useful for other people. Any doubts? Better Not.

@Link 48010

You cannot determine anybody elses Computer type and its utilities. Please read the above comment to Caleb...

Let me say this as tenderly as I can.... doubts. Your simply denying fact, what maker is your PC, what speed is your harddrive, what speed is your front side bus? And you have currently in my opinion very littler "professionalism" that you've proven to me. I present to you my computer as Mac OS sees it: http://www.filefactory.com/file/dda896/n/Freya_rtf The only error in this log is the soundcard which is not a Intel HD audio, but a Creative. And how you find it your place to criticize other people is beyond me, I never attacked you, I attacked your opinion because I thought it was wrong, in fact I'm pretty sure it is wrong.

My mistake, I meant "You have currently in my opinion very little "professionalism" that you've proven to me."

Actually, it's most likely not necessary for you to have all of my system logs, use this link instead: http://www.filefactory.com/file/076a6d/n/Freya_rtf

Oops...Getting kind of getting off guard with the technology things and overload. I apologize for your concerns.

Therefore I am trying to do more research on the Windows 7 program. I want to get the best out of these operating systems but I haven't seen much of them these days. I want Microsoft to actually slow down the process so it is the performance and neatness through the project, not because they want to release it on time.

Oops...Getting kind of getting off guard with the technology things and overload. I apologize for your concerns.

Therefore I am trying to do more research on the Windows 7 program. I want to get the best out of these operating systems but I haven't seen much of them these days. I want Microsoft to actually slow down the process so it is the performance and neatness through the project, not because they want to release it on time.

@Link48010

Intel Core 2 Quad is the processor making the Central Processing Unit (CPU) factor in the operating system. It controls how things actually work and the speed quality of the system.

Just a chain of thought I wanted to spread the knowledge. Have a great evening.

Very delicate file, please delete the file when you are done so nobody does not steal any important information included in the document. You have proven your point forward. Again, for security reasons, please delete the file...

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Since this posting is about performance, I thought these 2 articles came in handly. It looks like ZDNet tested the latest Prebeta build 6956 against Vista RTM and Vista SP1. The results look promising.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3182

Here is also another test against XP SP3.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3187

"@Link48010

Intel Core 2 Quad is the processor making the Central Processing Unit (CPU) factor in the operating system. It controls how things actually work and the speed quality of the system."

Again incorrect, there is a lot more at play in what makes a system fast or not. Not only the processor, but the build of the processor, IE Celeron VS Pentium. The type of harddrive and the RPM, a solid state is faster than any physical memory and thus will speed up the system, the speed of the bus to the RAM, IE say PCI-100 VS DDR-400, DDR is much faster. The bus speed of the main board, I have a Compaq with a slower bus speed than the Toshiba I'm on, guess what, it's slower. You have a very two dimensional view of computer performance my friend. Also, why should I "sign up" on your website?

Looks like you do not know what you are talking about. I should give you thousands of links to direct you to processors, etc. You should start paying much more attention.

Please visit sites like Wikipedia, Intel, Microsoft, and all those top sites, not unknown sites. How do you like my site anyway?

RAM is also a factor. I guss that you did mention that though.

Hi Caleb

You can try my web site at http://expressions.sharepointsite.net. I want to see if you like it or not. I want to share it with you guys.

Hi Caleb,

Yeah, I forgot to mention RAM earlier. I am working on this web design project for viewing on the web and I used my computer skills and combined it with JavaScript. Please take a look at it and give me a rating. You can list some improvements I should make toward the site.

Guys,

Clearly you don't do your homework very well and need a tutor. Information is so readily available on the internet about all these things your discussing. If you looked it up on half way credible websites, you could find that MinWin is not a windows version, but the core of the Windows files. DOS was one small operating system that fit on a floppy disk. Now MinWin because of Microsoft's complexity and EcoSystem of devices and software has grown quite a lot in last 10 years. For instance here in this website Dedicated to MinWin:

"Since MinWin is simply an effort from Microsoft to bring the kernel down to the smallest possible size in order to achieve the best efficiency for the upcoming versions of Windows, it will not be a kernel that is going to be distributed all by itself but merely a starting point for the next generation of operating systems built by Microsoft that break the legacy with the Vista operating system and its ancestors."

I could spend a lifetime just showing you guys the ropes of computer tech. I built PCs and programmed and messed with most of Microsoft's software since the 92.

I run a dual Intel Xeon 3.0 2 Gig RAM server machine for my workstation at work with XP-SP2. I use Excel and Access very heavily, including various Visual Studio versions and Office 2003 and Office 2007 SP1. Its really slow on XP and I cannot wait for Windows 7's UI and new OS Core to be more productive. Office 2007 is dog slow, but I like dumping old tech for something faster and less prone to system crashes, but its got to still provide productivity and ease of use benefits with a better experience.

I have used Vista once but its name implies it was a change for _visual _interactive _sensory _touch _auditory benefits of the operating system. Most of the changes were necessary to take advantage of new hardware and .NET APIs not those of .DLL hell and legacy PC technologies with IRQs and COM ports. I've crashed XP mostly wtih bad drivers, I agree it goes downhill and forgets how to stay stable after heavy use and no-reboots. But this is NT code, not .NET. Software was really bad, I frequently lock up XP on my home computer using basically IE or firefox, a Sound Card and JAVA, trying to browse the net, run Messenger and check my mail.

I don't mind OSX but is not very customizable for us real productive people. I cannot install a handful of the coolest apps in the world that I like using and I feel trapped in it. I would never use OSX for a developer's job, maybe your local media specialist can take care of you, but not for real work. I lock up my work machine with Office constantly and have to wait for it finally respond. Yet because I do so much data manipulation I tend to reboot the machine at least once a week to keep the memory fresh. Defrag and a windows re-install about once a year works wonders for using XP since the XP Beta came out.

Windows 7 promises plenty of productivity and multi-tasking improvements. Even Areo is said to use more Graphics hardware to render the UI rather than the system memory, so it will run faster.

I don't know about you, I tried Deskview with DOS, Windows 3.1, WFW 3.11, 95, 98SE, ME, XP, XP-SP2 and Vista, Windows 2000, NT 3.51, OS/2 and Ubuntu, Lindows, Red-Hat, Unix shells, Kanopix and Mac OS 8.x, 9.x and OSX. I've used Stardock ObjectX windowblinds to change how it looked on many machines I've built from hand. I've used varying machines from 8086 (XT) to the most high x86 models. I've tried XP and Windows 2000 on Virtual machines too. After all this, I have 1 DOS machine, 1 XP machine. I'm tired of looking at the same kind of apps every year. Windows 7 promises to be as good as XP has been with new Apps and better usability and better hardware usage like Intel HD Audio. I don't intent to run brand new apps on an old machine, but its almost time to trade up. And If you played your cards right, you never have to live with the crap or can skip several generations of tech or software. Windows 7 I believe should prove worthwhile to own and use on daily basis and use for productivity as long as new App versions exist. I can finally quit using the old.

I keep a DOS box just for all those cool video games that came out when I was growing up.

-Regards
cuz

I suggest you knock yourself out cuz84d, Caleb and Link other nice people are here to discuss, not here for you to break things down.

Who ever said that MinWin (the kernel (or core if you will) for Windows 7) was a vevsion of Windows? I do not believe that anyone here (other than you) has said that. I am sorry to have tell you this, but you either faund it on a different site and thought it was this one (phishing alert!), or made it up yourself. As for the knocking yourself out part, perhaps you should not do that, but rather do some of your own "homework" instead. Wikipedia is good.

The cuz84d person is totally wrong. I do not impersonate other people nor make things up. Visit my website at http://expressions.sharepointsite.net/ , Calab and see how it is like.

Do you like Dora The Explorer?

"Looks like you do not know what you are talking about. I should give you thousands of links to direct you to processors, etc. You should start paying much more attention."

I'm about half way to completely ignoring your comments as it seems like your *trying* to insult my intelligence, example; acting like I don't know what CPU stands for. And I'm beginning to think that your just here to randomly spam for your website. One, people are not going to go to a website from someone who spouts random crap that makes no sense. Two, I typically don't follow links from people I either don't trust, or don't like especially when they say it's "my" site. Why would I visit the site of people who obviously don't like me and I don't like. Okay, here, I'll prove it too you that the processor isn't the factor of speed. Me and my friends have been working on a project called Commander OS. Currently far from finished, but it has a GUI (oh and if you don't know that's Graphic User Inteface) and basic networking. Because of how tightly we've coded it (100 megs right now) it boots in 9 seconds.... on a 1.8 ghz solo core AMD Sempron with 512 megs of RAM. The ENTIRE system loads itself into RAM when it boots, all 100 megs and it makes a RAM drive when it boots where you can alter system files and when it's restarted you can commit changes or discard changes. The system on the hard drive is completely locked except for the users home folder, this ideally makes it impregnable to viruses as well as makes the operation of the OS snappier than any other OS you can find right now, even more so than Damn Small Linux (DSL). Should I need to demonstrate my knowledge more, I'll be glad to. If any of this flew over your head then ask me to explain it in lame-mans terms so that you can grasp what it all means.

...............right

I hope your "project" goes well. I will have a "commander" to tell you what technology is. Do not ever be rude like that again. I am correcting your opinions so do not think that I am hurting you in a way. When I download your software 10 years from now, it will be unsuccessful!

I wonder, do you understand that your arguing with a Masters in Electronics Engineering, a associates in business, an HP hardware certification, CompTIA certification, and Cisco networking certification. I know what I'm talking about, and those companies don't just give those out you know. Perhaps I should explain them too you. CompTIA is the standard test that most people take when preparing to get involved in computer based fields. I had the certification at 17 years old, a staple. HP certification means that I understand enough about computer hardware to work on their machines as a certified engineer, and that I'm allowed to sale their parts and computers. Cisco networking certification means essentially the same thing as the HP certification only it's for Cisco hardware and software. I've studied and perfected my knowledge for going on 17 years now. Your the one that insulted my intelligence to begin with, and I don't take lightly to it. Commander os is based off the ideals and theories of one of the most successful personal computers ever produced, the Amiga. Despite the fact that the company went bankrupt due to poor management, the Amiga sold more units than any other computer up to that point. The company actually still exists, and creates some of the most high performance gaming computers. http://www.commodoregaming.com/us-en/newHp.aspx The final version of Commander OS is going to consist of two versions, one I've told you some about, the other I'll keep to myself, but I will tell you this, booting will be like bringing your computer out of sleep, operations of complex, high demanding applications will execute is seconds, it will be immune to viruses, you'll never have to worry about "No program could be found to open this type of file", you'll never have to worry about registry errors or permissions becoming corrupt (Yes I know about that little Mac OS fault), you'll never have to defrag, you'll never have to concern yourself about hard drive lag, you'll need not concern yourself about "HALL.DLL is missing or corrupt" or "NTOSKRNL.EXE is missing or corrupt" like you do with windows. You'll never have to worry about "NO OS FOUND" BIOS errors, it will be the closes thing to an error free operating system almost completely because of the type of memory it uses, and the tight, powerful coding underneath it. I've assembled the best linux coders in the area, all of them are working towards this, by the time I'm done Microsoft and Apple will be competing for market share from me, maybe not in ten years, but I promise you, soon. Think about it, a fully powered OS that you can use on a pen drive, all based on one small idea from this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmigaOS and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_os_7

Old concepts of programing and hardware innovation have been forgotten because of two dimensional views on performance like yours, the idea of "why not take the advantage of faster hardware and cut corners in coding" and "why not take advantage of faster hardware and use cheaper parts" that I'm ashamed to say even Apple has fallen into (but kept their prices the same). Some older ideas were just far to ahead of their time for the day and the programming of the time. Ideas like mine soon could be the only hope for computers to continue their rapid growth, as eventually as we approch 1 nm (effectively the size of an atom) sized transistors, we won't be able to physically make them any smaller and thus we'll have reached the final part in Moore's law, that eventually we won't be able to shrink transistors any more and thus we won't be able to sustain our increases in speed. If you don't know, then Moore is the man who predicted (accurately) that we'd be able to double the number of transistors in a certain size every two years. He's been right so far, but eventually we won't be able to make them smaller, as it's simply impossible to go smaller than atom sized transistors. Therefore it's up to people like me to find new ways to handle and use data and the current hardware types to keep the increase in speed that the computer and electronics industry lives off of today.

That is one hairy text of computer skills!!!

Wikipedia is not a resourceful area, other people can edit it, which can make some false information, if you knew that.\

I would ban you for interrogation.

"Wikipedia is not a resourceful area, other people can edit it, which can make some false information if you knew that."

No kidding Sherlock. I've actually used both Mac OS 7 and Amiga OS 2-3.9 so yes the information is correct.

I can edit it right now, which can make some false information if I purposely did it.

<---End of Conversation--->

Ended.

I agree with the Windows 7 Team.

sad to say the vienna is not seven/vienna. the version I have got is build 7,0.01

About time, this will be especially good for UMPC's and netbooks.

This os i.e. Windows 7 (vienna) is most likable yet.

I vishwajeet gaurav, will purchase this original.

Well you must try it before. I downloaded the Pre beta version, and I feel like if the performance Increased by 300%. It boots faster, and it makes the computer less crashy. Plus, I like something that makes 7 the most compatible system yet. It accepts Vista's programs it has a program that makes the uncompatible programs that ran in older Windows (XP, 98, ME) compatible and it transforms the windows so it can run with the settings that XP or other OS operated.
In small worlds: This is the change we wanted to

Will Windows 7 support all games that played on XP?

That sounds neat. Perhaps with that program I can pay some of my older games such as Rayman and Sorry! again! Those are designed for Windows 95, although Sorry! may have actually been designed to work with XP as well, I am not sure. XP is not listed on the case as being one of the compatible operating sytems for Sorry!, but it seems to run just fine. Rayman was designed to work with Windows 3.1, 95, and 98, but I found a patch for it and it works [quite well] on XP, but it seemed like no matter what I tried, it would not run on Vista.

veyr good the latest windows 7 build 7000 is very god i have it activated from the key i got from microsft when i signed up there beta programs i is fast, clean, fatsr boot time than vista no matter how mcuh ram you have.. tested this windows build 7000 on 256 mb of ram booted in 16 secounds i was surprised... and still had all the aero stuff running..

Windows 7 is coming!

Already ???!!! I remain very attentive to the programming of this new opus windows ...
Vista was a debacle for Micro$ost ... then we may ask why Windows 7 happen so fast?

Vista is it so bad that even it at M$ have preferred to replace rather than to produce a SP2 even SP3?

What about all those who buy Vista? They will again put his hand to the pocket change version? So quickly?
" Yes it did have compatibility issues with *old* software"
loool
what do you mean by "old"??
1 year ago software?? i'm i obliged to buy every 3 months new graphic card

--Sorry i sent the comment 3 times by mistake

pfffff the second part of my comment is missing x( i'll write it again:
1 year ago software?? i'm i obliged to buy every 3 months new graphic card..new processor..etc..that i can run an OS! after the failure of WinVista!! if you say that WinVista wasn't a failure..therefore there was no urgency if only to return the money with a new OS!
It is well known ... Micro$oft considers its users as cash cows.Users will not pay a penny from seven to vista ...

Actually, Microsoft did make a second service pack for Vista. It is only in its beta stage at the moment though. Here it is. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=361D0CA3-4B2C-4F1C-8B3E-DE376FDB1DE8

I saw some pictures in internet, is relly that they show?? an interactive tool on the center of the screen!!!

Here's a guide that I used to install Windows 7. Works really well:
http://www.sriraminhell.com/2009/01/windows-7-build-7000-installation-guide.html

true a second server has been made for vista there last development on vista now! this sp2 adds a bit of new features and takes away computers that feel the bloated os feeling and does speed the system up.
and look at this windows 7 on this:
http://www.zii.com/

would be great os,isn't it?

If it comes from Microsoft... rest assured it will be full of empty promises, lousy security, and poor performance...

This about the company that has 90% of the desktop market share which says that user opinion is good. Lets face it, Microsoft didn't get 90% by making terrible software. Microsoft has put out one of the most respected and used Office suites ever, and has some of the largest revenues of any company in any field in the United States. Sorry, but every statistic seems to say otherwise.

Right...Thats why Vista has lousy sales and XP is a patch factory loaded with security faults and poor performance

Office was a great package-- 15 years ago---People are NOT satisfied with any of Microsoft's OS's as is evident by their 5 year stagnant stock price as well as the level of anticipation for a new "usable" OS instead of this refried win98. Its junk that satisfies unsophisticated users. Wake up.

Vista has lousy sales? Sure, that's why Vista reached a sales of over 1 million licenses sold faster than any version of Windows to date, even XP? People are satisfied with MS's OS because otherwise they'd be moving to apple more, which they aren't evident by their falling stocks that *I* have investments in (trust me, I'm not happy about it). Office is still a great suite, hence why it's still the number one set of office tools. You keep ignoring the fact that Microsoft has climbed to number one, and has stayed number one for a reason. They are number one is desktop OS sales, number one in phone OS sales (Windows Mobile), number one in desktop productivity software, the list goes on. Microsoft is also catching up with Apples iPod with the Zune which fyi is the second best selling PMP on the market today. I'll repeat it again, Microsoft did not become the top dog by luck and timing alone, otherwise their empire would have fallen apart much sooner like Netscape did.

Apple has just as many quirks. The system is far from secure, and oh, dare I mention those little file permissions that people have to spend a hour rebuilding all the time. This and the fact that Apple constantly shoot themselves in the foot by not making Mac OS PC capable, something that I'm living proof that they can do as I have Mac OS 10.5 running on my Toshiba over here. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy, I'm a realist, I like Mac OS too, but I think that Windows deserves far more respect than what your giving it, it's not like it popped up out of nowhere with no qualifications.

In the case of sales, I suspect that Windows 7 will reach 1E6/1,000,000//!<)))<)))End and six Inserts/you get the idea sales quite quickly as well.

Windows 7 Beta is just released this morning. Please go to www.windows7.com for more information of the download and the operating system itself.

Yep, it was. I am running the Windows 7 beta right now! So far it seems to work fine. Unfortunately, my touch does not work. I suspect that that is a driver issue (aka a lack of one). So far, there is one thing that I am not too impressed with (aside from the lack of touch, but HP may fix that later) is the fac that On-Screen keyboard no longer has a num pad. Narrator's new nuance is that, after a period of time, it stops echoing keystrokes. I have not run Magnifier yet though.

How is it's speed compared to Vista or XP Caleb?

So far it appears to indeed be faster. I was impressed when it kept essentially all of my settings from Vista intact. I will tell you what I have discovered with Magnifier next. It now includes two options for magnification: Full screen magnification and lens mode, which has a lens that follows your mouse cursor and keyboard focus. I also noticed that the Quick Launch toolbar is absent. That makes sence though, since items can be pinned to the taskbar. I already have two full rows and have started the third one. It has one icon. Overall, Windows 7 seems like a great operating system, but the lack of touch is not too neat (as I wanted to see what the multitouch does). Like I said before though, that may be fixed later. That was weird, hearing "right arrow" and "Windows 7" (talking about the browser Window's title) echoed at the same time!

I was concerned that the window system would be somewhat awkward, like snapping the windows to the edges and such.

It does seem a tad bit odd, but in some cases it would be quite helpful. As an example, I have a program that I use for arranging music. With Aero Snaps, I can place two instances of it beside each other and work with them that way. That would eliminate the need to keep pressing Alt-Tab to switch between them!

Sounds nice

In case I have not posted a link yet, here is a link to the page where you can download the Windows 7 beta. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

Microsoft confirmed that its forthcoming Windows 7 operating system and the widely maligned Vista OS share the same basic architecture. Windows 7 will not make significant architectural changes from Vista.

Microsoft is trying to use Windows 7 to extrsct XP customers wallets again, it's still a Vista-like operating system and will have the same compatibility problems!

Vista was plagued by software applications and hardware incompatibilities. Microsoft claims that won't happen with Windows 7 -- as long as users are working with applications that are Vista-compatible.

Let's NOT forget how the "Vista Capable" lawsuit is a full-blown class action, the judge has unsealed all 158 pages of emails between Microsoft execs trying to sort out what went wrong with the sticker program.

Windows 7 shows that it's really just Vista OS relabeled as the next new operating system by Microsoft.

I have seen the future, and it is bleak. Windows 7, the next big version, the one that was supposed to fix everything that was wrong with Vista, is here, and I can now say - with some confidence - that Microsoft has once again dropped the ball.

Installing Winblows 7 caused the following to happen.

1) 5.4GB of HDD used up!
2) 534MB of Ram Memory stolen by Windows 7!
3) 46 processes running after booting up!
4) installing time took greater than 2 full hours!
5) nothing to gain, didn't have touch all new touch hardware!

What's the point of using Windows 7 unless to fix Vista's problems. So the question is, why should we want to pay to have Microsoft fix Vista's defects, flaws and mistakes? Shouldn't that be done in Vista?

Or is Vista beyond repair?

@Sandy, "Vista is Windows 7!"

1) Microsoft confirmed that its forthcoming Windows 7 operating system and the widely maligned Vista OS share the same basic architecture. Windows 7 will not make significant architectural changes from Vista.

2) Microsoft is trying to extract XP customers wallets again, it's still a Vista-like operating system and will have the same compatibility problems!

Vista was plagued by software applications and hardware incompatibilities. Microsoft claims that won't happen with Windows 7 -- as long as users are working with applications that are Vista-compatible. Meaning, Windows 7 will experience the same issues and problems as Vista does with prior software investments customers purchased for XP!

3) Let's NOT forget how the "Vista Capable" lawsuit is a full-blown class action, the judge has unsealed all 158 pages of emails between Microsoft execs trying to sort out what went wrong with the sticker program. Sort speaks for itself... Microsoft promises never delivered!

4) Windows 7 really is just Vista OS relabeled as the next new operating system by Microsoft.

Richard was right!

To Sandy:
I am not sure about the first four things in your comment, but I do know that I did/do have the same problem with touch. I did not have any at first. I eventually did get the pen to work, however, I cannot figure out how to change the pointers to the pen specific ones, and I still do not have finger input.

"2) Microsoft is trying to extract XP customers wallets again, it's still a Vista-like operating system and will have the same compatibility problems!"

I've used it, only one program that hasn't worked, Norton Antivirus 2008.

"4) Windows 7 really is just Vista OS relabeled as the next new operating system by Microsoft."

I'm using the beta now, have you used it at all? It's nothing like Vista, it's several times faster and much more solid acting.... and it's a beta.

And it does not allow you to use pen specific pointers or your finger as a pointing device LOL.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that On-screen Keyboard does not have a num pad! What I hope that they do with that is keep the sleek new look, but return the old layout (which did have a num pad).

BTW, how does Microsoft's feedback system work? Do they send you an e-mail after a while? Does anyone know?

I don't think that MS will send you an email back. It's like Error reporting in Vista, it just happens.

In that case, all you can do is send the feedback and hope that something is done about it.

Just a little question:
Does anyone know how many will M$7 cost?

I found an odd bug last night, every time I opened the Action Center, the window glass colors would change to a very dark black.
@Person, I have no idea, I expect the same as vista, maybe less.

I think that I would have to agree with Link48010 on the price aspect. As for the bug thing, that sounds weird. I do not know that I have seen that one. When I open Action Center, the title bar is the same color as my desktop background. I am not sure about the colors changing to a deep black though. Perhaps you have one of the high contrast color schemes (other than white) on.

If it was a high color contrast why would it only activate when I opened a Control panel window (any control panel window does it, not just Action Center)? I created a new user and that seemed to have solved the problem, must have been some accidental setting.

That is interesting. I am not sure what might have caused it. Did you send feedback to Microsoft about it? I have used that quite a bit [especially in the accessibility area, but I have used it in the tablet and hardware areas as well]. I am not sure if anything will be done about it or not, but I guess that only time will tell. The main thing is that I hope that a num pad is placed on their onscreen keybaords (at least the Tablet PC Input Panel, since I discovered that recognizes continuous presses of keys). I also hope that a feature is added such that the modifiers can be locked until pressed again (like having an onscreen "Sticky Keys" (I actually use Sticky Keys quite a bit too.) (The three computers that I have a profile on at home all have Sticky Keys enabled.)

Erh! Excuse me, but I am a natural blonde....
Where the f....n hell do I find the Download button to get the f....n Windows 7.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx

Have fun.

To Joan:
Apparently you did not read all of the posts [or did not read them very thoroughly at least] because in one of mine you should have found a 48010 (er, link) (LOL) (Sorry, Link48010, for some reason, that seemed like the thing to do at the time.) to where to download the Windows 7 beta. I suppose that you probably did what I do and went directly to the new posts. That is no big deal at all. BTW, Joan, is your last name Walden (LOL) (That is a joke from The Cat in the Hat.) (I suspect that neither your last name is Walden, nor that you have a son named Conrad and a daughter named Sally.)

well i agree with a lot of you and i also realised that i should not go for windows vistaalthoughi have had a shot of it and i thot it was amzing but i cant see the performance with a shot. but i am really looking forward to windows 7 i think is goingto be like windows vista without the down sides :D .

okay one this is the deal windows vieena is based of vista but they made it so much better becuase of all the complents of vista, and one people dont leave reatdred comments saying vieena probally will suck you dont know that, try the f-ing beta version and then give your comments okay, vienna is vista but is better for computer on a computer that wont run vista viena will run on. I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT becuase i ama microsoft develpoer that is a main delvelpoer of vienna and i am letting people know and i ahve the rights from Mcirosft that it willbe better and earier on hardware than vista

Evidently people we found a developer that doesn't use spell check -_-. Your not fooling anybody Anthony. That and you make very little sense, if you are as you say a 'develpoer' then no wonder Windows is plagued by odd problems and weird mannerisms.

To Anthony:
So, you are a developer, huh? Say it with me now, d-e-v-e-l-o-p-e-r! Say this with me now [I noticed the spelling] M-i-c-r-o-s-o-f-t. Now try these:
W-i-n-d-o-w-s (You should be able to say that one because you have probably seen plenty of them in your life time! LOL)
V-i-e-n-n-a
V-i-s-t-a
Here is one: Reatdred? What does that mean? I am going to guess that you meant retarded. It may be no wonder why you have not been the narrator for Windows. You would possibly not know how to pronounce things (Sometimes Anna's pronunciations are a little strange [like when she occasionally pronounces Daisy as though it is pronounced like Daddy], or when she thinks that a table is a table when it has zero rows and zero columns (I still do not get that one.), but she does sound intelligible at least.)
So, perhaps Windows, Vista, and Vienna were not needed, but you get the idea. Perhaps you should use something such as Word to check the spelling of your comments before you send them (That is an attempt to help you, by the way, in case you are not aware of that.)

Good news for Anthony:
I made a mistake! I noticed that my "lifetime" was split when it should not have been! Oops!

In my experience so far, Windows 7 runs fast and stable. i haven't had any compatability issues at all, and i like the changes to the GUI (though i can see a lot of PC users slamming this OS already just 'cuz they can't figure out simple changes).

I've had vista since it came out and never had any compatability issues with hardware or software.

no, i didn't buy a PC with vista, it was a old pc i had that i formatted, and installed a clean copy of Vista Home Premium 32-bit, so it wasn't one with the 'Vista Ready' or w/e they were putting on the boxes.

also, in my experience from the very beginning, vista has always ran programs and games faster than xp did even with only 1.5 or 2 GB of RAM. maybe the people with it running slow were the people running 512 MB or less of RAM, which is really just a bad idea.

Dont remember where i read it but someone talked about XP getting slower and slower and slower the longer it's on, which i definetly noticed and also noticed it virtually gone in vista. i used to re-format and re-install XP every 2 months because of that crap.

I really think that people listen to much to what media says about MS and their OS's, even though their sources are most likely idiots that can't figure out that no matter what you're installing you (basically) just click next until you click finish (why can't they sumarize this into one [Install without being asked stupid and unimportant questions] button?).

As far as people just slamming windows (any versoin) and saying Mac OSX is god (basically saying that), I haven't tried Mac OSX in dept but loved older versoins of the Mac OS and would probably agree that IF all the software available for Windows was avail for Mac OSX AND it was easily (and legally *cough* *cough*) installable on a PC (without compatability issues) I would most likely use OSX over Windows. however, as far as i've read it's actually (technically) illegal to either install or use (not sure which) OSX on a PC, my guess is Mac wants u to pay the EXTREMELY overpriced ammount they charge for their PC's with much lower system stats than a PC 1/2 it's cost.

What i would love to see is Mac release OSX (or something similar) for PC's, but i doubt that will happen any time soon (more likely ever) so I'll continue to use Windows. Really, if any company that develops an OS has any chance at crushing the MS monopoly it would be Mac and what i just described above (OSX for PC) is most likely the only possible chance at all.

Anyways, kinda got carried away, have fun :D.

the only problems I had was my modem driver for speed touch drivers was a beta driver so my download speed would be 10-100kb/s always and it would turn red so often on the modem soon I smashed my modem and got a wireless router and vista automatically found the drivers for it! it worked fine without any drivers but it recommended me to download vista working ones I did and now my download speed 4 times faster so vista after sp1 one was released improves in compatibility by a lot before sp1 it was still buggy in finding drivers but now its okay and there’s already a sp1 leaked on the web for vista but if you install it too soon you will get a writing at the bottom saying for testing purposes only so its no recommended... but otherwise vista will have this name:
Vista ultimate sp2
Then windows 7 sp1 and sp2 and even sp3 maybe< Microsoft has not made their mind up if they are going to have three server packs for windows 7... so overall Microsoft started of form windows 95 and then xp added a bit of colour and interactivity to it and then vista added all of the neat affects now windows 7 has made it into aero shake feature and where tow windows if put side to side auto configure them selves to fit on the screen! And it loads faster than vista even if you have 512 mb of ram and is less bloated than vista in services wise. but overall I prefer Mac has it been around longer and has sorted out all of its bugs and it is a bug free system I hope Microsoft does sort every bug they have I am helping in this has I was one of the few people to get a serial key for windows 7 and have submitted over 100 bugs iv had with windows 7 and one of them is mp3 files been corrupt there is a fix for that..
You might ask what’s new in windows 7:
The boot screen has changed.
Faster taskbar browsing if you have 10 internet pages open and all you have to do is hover over the internet icon it loads tabbed thumbnails of each page and just hover over each one to see what pages that have open and you can even close pages from this thumbnail preview.
Welcome screen is dynamic changing if you have enough ram it moves in the background...
Also at the moment it does have windows dream scene enabled in there but I have heard that this dream scene will now be integrated into the welcome screen and you’re desktop!!!!!
And also windows media 12 is included in windows 7 yes its true if you have it installed go to about windows media player in windows 7 it says the version is 12.0001..... And windows 7 interference has changed also as it has a cookie scanning feature.
And has a more vivid view of you security centre.

overall i know its a lot to read but i still need ot say more vista asks for 512 mb of ram minnimium why does windows 7 asks for 1Gb as a min reqruirment? does it take more RAM but still load faster? bu anywayz windows 7 i think in my opnions is much faster than vista i coudl feel the performance when i first installed but the index rating is bit lower than vista one dont know why but there is way to change these index rating from a tool of the web but its not reccomended as it messes with your index rating files and then your rating index stoped working and gets locked!

It sounds like, even though your touch did not work, you decided against smashing the screen, eh, Sohail? LOL

I put win 7 build 7000 on my old ass single core with no vid card an 1 gig of ram, and it runs faster on it then xp did, win 7 is pretty sweet atleast for outdated pcs, i put it on my intel dual, 512mb nvidia card, 3gigs of ram pc, and it was havin sum compatibilty issues on it, was slow and stuff kept crashin....... weird? win vista made every1 buy a ton of new expensive hardware to run, but win7 can be used on old lame pcs and run well?? Thats not gonna stimulate much hardware purchases, kinda funny...

That is funny indeed, Bo. What would also be funny is your brother [Gizmo?], your sister [Pouncer?], and your local sumo wrestling opponent [Link?] making the next two posts!

You lost me at sumo wrestling opponent.

That is a joke. In The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess you do sumo wrestling with a character whose name is Bo.

One would think that, if anyone here knew about that, you would Link48010 LOL!

Oh, yeah, for the iron boots, I've beat the game twice. But Link is my real name, and I've had it long before Legend of Zelda made its day view.

And let's see here…Your pet horse's name is Epona, your brother's name is Chain, your sister's name is Daisy (That is a good name.), and your maid's name is Zelda. Perhaps it is not Zelda, but rather Impa. Your sister's name may not be Daisy, but rather Zelda, Sheik, or Midna (That would be rather odd.) (especially Midna) (though that may be the name that you gave your shadow because it is so bizarre LOL) One thing that I suspect isn't the case: You are a wolf, and if so, beware of the bulldog LOL. As for the iron boots thing, you may have some steel-toed boots, but I suspect that they are not quite as heavy as Link's iron boots in the games. In the case of your name actually being Link, Nintendo may have discovered your parents somehow, found out that they had a son and named him Link, and used that name for their character.
Something that is weird: How the prefix re- is used (for example, retire, or, as I thought of, ReDead) (You can ask Nintendo about that one.) As for day view, I would suspect that you probably meant the word debut, but you goofed some how and put day view. Perhaps you were thinking that Midna came along before the game did somehow and she prevented its "day view" LOL.

I don't know what your trying to get at with all the Legend of Zelda jokes, but it's getting kind of old. And my horses name is Mohawk thank you. And if I was rich enough to afford a maid, you'd know because you'd never see me again.

Sorry, I just thought that Bo's name was a tad bit odd I guess and carried my mind away (or it ran away, whichever happened). As for the horse's name, that still sounds kind of neat.

I named him that because he sticks his head though the fence and it's torn out the longer hairs in his mane, and because it's so short it stands up like a mohawk. Anyhow, I compared Vista VS Win 7's boot time today on the same laptop (dual boot) and it checked out as Win 7 was 18 seconds faster. There can be several reason, I know the difference between AntiViri can't help, Norton 08 (on Vista) is much heavier than Norton 09 I have loaded on Win 7 (just the plain Norton Antivirus, when I couple it with Vista Firewall Control which works on both Vista and Win 7, Firefox with NoScript and Mcafee Site Advisor, I have all the security I need.) So let's say that Norton 08 slows down Vista by five seconds, a fair guess, that's still 13 seconds faster. My basic specs are as follows:

Intel Pentium 4 1.76 ghz Dual Core
1 Gig of DDR2 RAM
about a 39 Gig Partition per on the same HDD, an 80 Gig seagate SATA.
Intel Express Graphics at 256 mb dedicated video memory.

On both systems my Windows Experience index checks out at about 3.0-3.1 With Primary Hard Disk checking out as the lowest on each one at the 3.0 (Win 7) or 3.1 (Vista), and Ram checking out at 4.5 as the best score on each.

Hmm…a dual-core Pentium 4? That seems odd. I thought that the Pentium 4 and the Pentium Dual-Core were different (and that the Pentium 4 was only single-core). As for the WEI, in Vista, I believe that mine was a 4.0. In Windows 7, it is 4.3 (after a rerun) (It was initially 2.3.) The weird thing is that my lowest score is the Desktop Performance for Windows Aero score. The gaming graphics rating is a 5.3. Of course, I now do not have an especially good computer as far as that is concerned, since that is a 4.3 out of 7.9 (as opposed to 4.3 out of 5.9, which is what it was in Vista).

I am writing about the new operating system,Microsoft's Windows 7. I wish to try and understand what is going on within Microsoft?. I like thousands more people world wide, purchased Windows Vista Home Premium with my new DELL Laptop in Jan 2007., this is when Microsoft Released Windows Vista. I was led to believe that Vista was to be the last Operating System for a long time and that it was going to be the best Operating System since XP.
I realise now that all that hipe at The CES Showing in Las Vegas, and advertsing, was Microsoft fooling alot of people, and now in less than two years since Vista was released, and since Vista is not what it was made out to be,what with all the problems Microsoft are having with Vista, how can we not believe that Windows 7. is not Vista with new features, or an attempt to fix up Vista , under a new disguise?.
I do not think Vista Customers will be going out and purchasing another new Operating System Windows 7. so soon. Windows Vista is not that long released, i think Microsoft should try and give better value for money, and try and release improvement for Vista like SP1.,I believe that with hard ecomonic times, world wide now Microsoft would be making a big mistake with Windows 7, after all you would be probably purchasing a new version of Vista just to have touch screen, a feature they should have included in Vista to begin with, that is if you like touching your P.C. Screens?..

You people should all download this NOW~!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

Having the term "fake" in the name does not sound like the program would be especially appealing already (though having honesty is a good thing, provided that the "fake" aspect is truly showing honesty (in the naming that is)).

I have not wrote to this blog in about more than 3 weeks let me introduce myself for those newcomers. Hi my name is Eric and I am a specialist in modern technology. Therefore serving in more than 10 years in learning and development. Hello Caleb, I have not talked to you in weeks; along with Link48010. I also commented on the Windows 7 Beta Release. I have tried it and so far it is faster than Vista. But, it still needs a lot more user-friendly in it. I don't really think that is Steve Ballmer up there, because of the word "fake" in the internet address (also mentioned by Caleb).

I think that Win 7 is plenty user friendly, it just has a few consistency bugs to work out. Over all I'm extremely pleased and although I know it won't stick around for 6-7 years, I'd like to say that it's the next XP. I just hope:

1. there aren't 4-5 different versions, Basic, Home, Business, Ultimate, all that.

2. The vista core isn't changed any time soon and MS just continues improving it like it did with Win 7 to keep compatibility.

3. Wireless bugs are fixed, that's the main problem I have with it, although my router could be the problem, it didn't start acting weird until I started using Win 7.

He is, perhaps, like Anthony and professes to be a "developer." I could be wrong though.

"I was led to believe that Vista was to be the last Operating System for a long time"

That was your mistake Bill, you seem to have forgotten the time when MS released a new version of Windows every two or three years. 95-NT 4.0-98/98SE-2000-ME-XP, then was the gap because of the security issues in XP, 90% of the work force in MS was changed to locking things down in Service Pack 2. MS typically releases smaller upgrades ever two or so years, like NT 4 to NT 5 (Win 2000), and so on. XP will be the last we see of the original NT core. The Win Server 03 core is what is used with Vista and Win 7 and most likely for the next few OS' although eventually the Sever 08 core could take over or some other improved system core in the future we've yet to see.

So hands up all of you that can't wait to get your copy of the new Microsoft Windows 7. Any idea's when it will be on general release?.
I wounder how many Windows Vista customers will rush out to purchase Windows 7, and install it on there computers instead of Windows Vista.

Finaly any Apple OS people out there that might like to share their views on Windows Vista as an Operating System?.. has any one tried running Adobe Software Photoshop CS or earlier on a Windows Vista Machine,There is big problems with Vista, and Adobe.I recently read on the Internet some reviews from Apple people, there nothing to worry about Windows Vista, and i am sure they really won't be to worried about Microsoft obtaining any Apple customers changing over to Windows 7.
I believe alot of people are discovering The Apple Mac. and Apple OS.

My version of Adobe Photoshop CS2 works fine on Vista and Win 7. I use Mac OS 10.5 and find it......... not so much a operating system, because of how, uncustomizable it is. I honestly never found Vista to be that bad, if people would actually use the Vista Upgrade Adviser that was released for computers running XP, then there wouldn't have been nearly as many people complaining "I tried to install it but couldn't find any good drivers" etc. I honestly don't think that Apple will ever take off charging 1200 bucks for a laptop, especially not in these economic times. If anything, used PC sales are going to go up.

Here is a recommended game for you, dieu. It will help you hone your typing skills (since it would appear that you are just learning [perhaps?]
http://www.popcap.com/games/typershark

*confused*
Wouldn't it be asdfjkl; if he was just learning?

good job, microsoft. But what i really want is the "compatibility". Vista can't run several software even i change the compatibility to XP. Hope window 7 can run all software even without changing the compatibility so i can play all range of games ^^ even classical one.

MS has built Windows 7 only to be compatible with Vista, as far as running older apps, it will be the same as Vista.

Hi all, it me again, have some sad news for the "old school's" but have also been testing the Vienna / windows seven ( http://www.hoejegladsaxe.dk/vienna.php )for many months and noticed that some bugs and patched are gone/fixed.

The topic i'm mentioning today is the calculator, yes folks, the boring and almost never used calculator.
They have now closed the "go to url" function hidden in the calculator, when previous from "locked" pc's, workstations, servers and secure networks, one was able to acces the internet by using this some what hidden function.
This can be an awaresom topic or one where most people still now is thinking what i'm talking about, but for those who do, I find it sad to see some old back doors disappear.

Once again, Windows Vienna / Windows Seven is ONLY a servicepack3 for Vista...and "no" it was not me who leaked the Windows Vienna / 7 version...lol, and will not leak the new version either.

If nothing else is improved .... Lets all hope and pray that enfamous WHITE SCREEN OF DISPAIR DISAPPEARS :)

The enfamous "WHITE SCREEN OF DESPAIR" you said does not recall in my part. Perhaps it is called the "BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH"...If you need some information about it visit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Screen_of_Death

"The enfamous "WHITE SCREEN OF DESPAIR" you said does not recall in my part. Perhaps it is called the "BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH"...If you need some information about it visit:"

He's refering to how Vista whites out a program that has crashed, or if Explorer.exe or "System" stops responding, the whole screen whites out some.

Sorry for the double post.

Will, he should have been more specific about his given information Mr. Link. Nobody can't understand what they are talking about if they are not giving full detail. Therefore on your explanation, I would get when the Windows Explorer would not respond and make the window white. I have not experienced the whole screen whiting out, but it seems like your computer stops responding most of the time. Mocking me does not help others, it just makes it worst, I suggest you stop now...

Nobody cares if you double posted...

Who was mocking who now? That wasn't my intention.

it's probally your RAM that causes the " white screen of death " but that phrase was new to me to.

RAM doesn't make sense, unless you mean a lack of it.

Your intention was to give people the wrong information....nerd...

Whew! Thats a lot of bashing...
Anyway, I don't really care much what most of the people here say about Windows 7, I've tried it and it is the best operating system that I've ever used, and the most amazing part about it is that it's still in beta, and it's already this good. I truly recommend it for everyone, even if it is still a beta.
I really can't wait for the final release. I truly think this is gonna be the next XP, and it could stick around for 5-7 years if Microsoft really does it's job.
(BTW, the beta is no longer available for download.)

can i down load window 7?

Microsoft stopped distributing the download, so you would have to look elsewhere to find it [though that may be a hacked version].

yes its not true that vista is hardware killer. vista sp2 is released and its hardware suppporting is amazing. i think vista sp2= coming windows 7. windows 7 is bulid on the same kernel of vista. the software that doesn't support vista will not support windows 7. i thinh i stick on vista sp2. because of its improved features and supporting like bluetooth and wifi.... the performance of windows 7 when compared to vista is slightly better. for eg. if performance of vista is 10.8 the n that of windows 7 is 11.2. that is there is a small difference in their performance.... thanku for listening..

yes its not true that vista is hardware killer. vista sp2 is released and its hardware suppporting is amazing. i think vista sp2= coming windows 7. windows 7 is bulid on the same kernel of vista. the software that doesn't support vista will not support windows 7. i thinh i stick on vista sp2. because of its improved features and supporting like bluetooth and wifi.... the performance of windows 7 when compared to vista is slightly better. for eg. if performance of vista is 10.8 the n that of windows 7 is 11.2. that is there is a small difference in their performance.... thanku for listening..

yes its not true that vista is hardware killer. vista sp2 is released and its hardware suppporting is amazing. i think vista sp2= coming windows 7. windows 7 is bulid on the same kernel of vista. the software that doesn't support vista will not support windows 7. i thinh i stick on vista sp2. because of its improved features and supporting like bluetooth and wifi.... the performance of windows 7 when compared to vista is slightly better. for eg. if performance of vista is 10.8 the n that of windows 7 is 11.2. that is there is a small difference in their performance.... thanku for listening..

yes its not true that vista is hardware killer. vista sp2 is released and its hardware suppporting is amazing. i think vista sp2= coming windows 7. windows 7 is bulid on the same kernel of vista. the software that doesn't support vista will not support windows 7. i thinh i stick on vista sp2. because of its improved features and supporting like bluetooth and wifi.... the performance of windows 7 when compared to vista is slightly better. for eg. if performance of vista is 10.8 the n that of windows 7 is 11.2. that is there is a small difference in their performance.... thanku for listening..

The second service pack for Vista is out of beta now? Oh, cool

windwos vena

To all of you who are against Microsoft, simply if you dont like the software microsoft produce simply do not use it please go ahead and uninstall every microsoft software, i dare you to do. you will never be able to live with out it, so please stop the blaming and start a good and positive criticisim that help to bring more good and effecient software out of this great company the one and only one in the world wide market now. enough said.

Positive criticism sounds like an oxymoron. Just like living dead, or Xenia Onatopp (I will explain that one, though I guess her term is "sharp contrast" rather than "oxymoron.") Look at these links in the order listed, it might help you understand the sharp contrast aspect of Xenia.
1. http://www.zelo.com/firstnames/findresults.asp?name=Xenia
2. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Hospitable
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenia_Onatopp#Xenia_Onatopp (Especially note the second part of the biography (the one that starts "She is a classic example.")

Windows 7 is fully optimized booster